Land Talk Transcript

I did a question and answer session on Book Island yesturday night about land basics, and was asked to post in on the blog for people who may have missed it. So here it is, unorganized, unedited with typos and all!

[15:57]  Selina Greene: okay - while we're waiting for 4pm, I'd like to say a few bits and pieces
[15:57]  Selina Greene: firstly, welcome to Book Island
[15:57]  Dimitrio Lewis waves
[15:57]  Selina Greene: and to the Ask the Experts series of talks
[15:57]  Selina Greene: this is a regular series of events which runs on Thursdays at 4pm
[15:57]  Selina Greene: though that said, there won't be a talk next week
[15:58]  Selina Greene: because I'm doing RL and going on holiday :-)
[15:58]  Selina Greene: normal services will resume on 19th July
[15:58]  Selina Greene: after the talk
[15:58]  Selina Greene: please take a while to browse the island
[15:58]  Griffin Halderman: and if everyone could reduce the number of scripts they have running it will help reduce lag
[15:58]  Selina Greene: we have nearly 50 publishers, writers, editors and other shops connected with the book industry on the island
[15:59]  Selina Greene: and we hold a number of events, not just book related as you can see
[15:59]  Selina Greene: this evening
[15:59]  Selina Greene: as Griffin said, we're getting pretty busy
[15:59]  Selina Greene: and therefore laggy
[15:59]  Selina Greene: so if you could reduce your scripts, prims and tags etc, I'd be grateful
[15:59]  Selina Greene: we'll all look away if you're changing out of your prim skirts lol
[16:00]  Selina Greene: so without further ado...
[16:00]  Selina Greene: I'd like to welcome Sarah Nerd
[16:00]  Selina Greene: Land Baronness extraordinaire
[16:00]  Sarah Nerd waves
[16:00]  Bella Wilberg claps
[16:00]  Dyamond Stardust:    ...Applause...
[16:00]  Sumi Portola: /clap
[16:00]  Selina Greene: and Bella Wilberg
[16:01]  Bella Wilberg smiles
[16:01]  Daisyblue Hefferman: clap clap clap
[16:01]  Dyamond Stardust:    ...Applause...
[16:01]  Sarah Nerd: Well my name is Sarah, and I've been in second life for almost 2 years now, and for most of that I've been dealing land.
[16:02]  Sarah Nerd: I work with both mainland and estates so I can answer most questions concerning either
[16:02]  Sarah Nerd: I'll go over a few of the basic and then I'll answer questions
[16:02]  Sarah Nerd: Well there are 2 types of land, Mainland and Estate Land
[16:03]  Sarah Nerd: or private islands
 [16:03]  Sarah Nerd: To purchase mainland you must be a premium memember, and you will pay monthly tier fees to LL according to how many meters of land you own
 [16:04]  Sarah Nerd: Estate's or Private Islands are owned and operated by residents
[16:05]  Sarah Nerd: You do not need a premium account to rent or own land on these sims, and your fee's and payment arangments are set by the island owner
 [16:05]  Sarah Nerd: Mainland Has a general Market Value
 [16:06]  Sarah Nerd: It's always changing according to the amount of sims being created, the ecomony and so on
[16:06]  Sarah Nerd: Estate prices when sold rather than renting have a large range of pricing options
[16:06]  Griffin Halderman: is there a way to find out how many sims are being created weekly, monthly etc
[16:07]  Sarah Nerd: It's all set by the estate owners
[16:07]  Selina Greene: please reduce excess scripts and primmy items from your avatar to reduce lag - thank you!
[16:07]  Sarah Nerd: Mainland is fairly unrestricted
[16:07]  Sarah Nerd: With the exception of pg land needs to come with pg behavior
[16:08]  Sarah Nerd: No restriction can be a wonderful thing if you want full freedom, but it also comes with things like ad farms, and no control over a neihbors build
[16:09]  Sarah Nerd: Estate Land generally comes with a covenant, or a guildline you must in order to live in the sim
[16:09]  Sarah Nerd: must follow*
[16:09]  Sarah Nerd: Each Covenant is set by the estate owners so it is different from sim to sim
[16:10]  Slideshow Screen: Slideshow screen is OFF.
[16:10]  Slideshow Screen: Slideshow screen is ON. To add images, hold CTRL while dragging the image onto the screen.
[16:10]  Miralee Munro: Are we supposed to be seeing images?
[16:11]  Lorene Oh: I don't see any
[16:11]  Autumn Goldkey: Neither do I
[16:11]  Sarah Nerd: The search bar comes with the abilty to sort between mainland and estate land, but no matter what its best to make sure you know exactly what you are buying and what comes with it before clicking purchase
[16:12]  Sarah Nerd: I didnt out any up =)
[16:12]  Danae Debevec: how exactly do you tell the difference, where do you see that?
[16:12]  Sarah Nerd: Thats the basics I have, can I answer questions?
[16:12]  Sarah Nerd: You can right click the land, select about land
[16:12]  Brash Zenovka: What are th epros/cons of buying vs renting land?
[16:12]  Sarah Nerd: or world tab, and about land
[16:12]  Miralee Munro: So basically, the more sims that are created the lower land prices go?
[16:13]  sensualspirit Hornpipe is Offline
[16:13]  Sarah Nerd: and under the covenant tab it will show an estate owner and estate name
[16:13]  Sarah Nerd: mainland those fields will be blank
[16:13]  Danae Debevec: I see, thank you
[16:13]  Reodor Sands: Sarah - Do you think LL will ever offer sailable waters to estate owners, just like the water sims in the Nautilus continent?
[16:13]  Sarah Nerd: Yes depending on how many created by LL and the buying population
[16:14]  Lorene Oh: Sarah I have 14,000 sq m now, and I'd liek to buy a sim...but i'm not ready financially. I am starting to hate my neighbors casinos. Any suggestions of middle ground unti I get a sim?
[16:14]  Footos Voom: what percent of people own their own residential land?
[16:14]  Sarah Nerd: That I'm not sure of it it would be awesome
[16:14]  Brash Zenovka: Is leasing land, instead of buying, very sensible?
[16:14]  Sarah Nerd: Lorene, you might try an estate rental on a commercial estate that fits your needs
[16:14]  Nicci Lane: why is there no public beaches on most sims so residents can enjoy beaches and rez things easily??
[16:15]  BlueWings Hayek: I get confused between the abilities of the Estate Managers and owners of groups on an island
[16:15]  Sarah Nerd: Owners have total control, Managers have almost as much power
[16:15]  Bella Wilberg: thats me 8waves*
[16:16]  Miralee Munro: Sarah, what is the best way to sell your land?
[16:16]  BlueWings Hayek: if anyone can create a group, what is to stop anyone from being a manager
 [16:16]  Sarah Nerd: If the owner is not online and there is an issue with a sim, the lindens will restart ect if an estate owner asks
[16:16]  Danae Debevec: If I bought a sim and I deeded it to a group and set up rental boxes. How do I allow renters to place items yet not get partial payments when the rental boxes are paid?
 [16:16]  Selina Greene: Please! stop clicking the screen! thanks :-)
[16:17]  BlueWings Hayek: these are good questions-is there a wiki with this information from these sessions?
[16:17]  Sarah Nerd: Keep yourself as the owner of the rental box
[16:17]  Sarah Nerd: dont deed that to the group
[16:17]  Nobody Fugazi: hehe. It's supposed to be in the dungeon of the Knowledge Base. :-)
[16:17]  Dyamond Stardust: so Lindens are only selling sims not pieces of land?
[16:17]  BlueWings Hayek: ah :)
[16:17]  Prospero Frobozz: Also, you can configure in detail what different classes of members can do in groups.
[16:17]  Footos Voom: Sarah, what type of land is more profitable to own, part of an estate that you built a house on and plan to sell, or a commercial lot next to a highly trafficed area that you plan on renting out to vendors?
[16:17]  Danae Debevec: so I can set up the rental box differently then I do the land?
[16:17]  Prospero Frobozz: You can go in and make sure that they don't pay debts or receive dividends.
[16:18]  Sarah Nerd: Lindens sell full sims via aution, and they resell abandoned and reclaimed mainland via auction and general listing
[16:18]  Dyamond Stardust: ok ty :)
[16:18]  Daisyblue Hefferman: What are the ramifications of deeding land to a group, say, your business group?
[16:18]  Prospero Frobozz: There's a bit of land near one of my plots that is "purple", listed as an auction, but it's not listed on the auction page. Do you know what the typical delay is?
[16:18]  Sarah Nerd: When you deed mainland you recieve a 10% bonus
[16:19]  Daisyblue Hefferman: prim bonus?
[16:19]  Sarah Nerd: Which means you can own 10% more land than your tier level allows without being charged more
[16:19]  Daisyblue Hefferman: oh, ok
[16:19]  Sarah Nerd: No prim bonus =(
[16:19]  Sarah Nerd: I should say though that mainland prims are as is
[16:19]  Sarah Nerd: you always have the same level 117 per 512 meters
[16:20]  Sarah Nerd: Estates have the ability to allow more prims per square meter
 [16:20]  Miralee Munro: Sarah, I may have missed it if you answered - but what is the best way to sell your land?
[16:20]  Sarah Nerd: but they still only have 15000 prims for the entire island
[16:20]  Daisyblue Hefferman: so, the, no benefits to deeding private land to a group?
[16:20]  Bella Wilberg: its always 1 prim/4.376 m2
[16:20]  Prospero Frobozz: Miralee : sell it to Sarah :)
[16:20]  Miralee Munro: lol
[16:20]  Sarah Nerd: There are a few ways to sell, mainly you list it and it appears in search listings
[16:20]  Sarah Nerd: but
[16:21]  Daisyblue Hefferman: Neighbors often will buy.
[16:21]  Sarah Nerd: you can also do forum posts to help, this works great for special land like waterfront full terra
[16:21]  Sarah Nerd: slexchange offers land classifieds for 10-30L I think
 [16:21]  Sarah Nerd: It's a good way to get more attention to any land
[16:22]  Bella Wilberg: full terra meaning you can terraform the land, raise/ lower it
[16:22]  Sarah Nerd: especially estate land
 [16:22]  Sarah Nerd: Yes mainland generally allows you to raise or lower land 4 meters
[16:22]  Miralee Munro: Okay - thank you. So you don't recommnend using a broker?
[16:22]  Reodor Sands: Sarah - to what extent do you trust LL to keep the pace on new sims down (avoiding devaluation of our/your) investment? They are making loads of money on the sims themselves......
[16:23]  Sarah Nerd: Honestly a broker doesnt have the abilty to do anything that you cant unless they are very good salesmen and have a lot of connections so people come to them looking for land often
[16:23]  Christany Daniels: do land owners receive direct compensation from the amount of traffic they bring into their land?
[16:23]  Sarah Nerd: Thats just my opinion though
[16:23]  Miralee Munro: Uh huh
 [16:23]  Sarah Nerd: No, LL stopped offering a dwell bonus some months back
[16:23]  Danae Debevec: one more question about group owned land. If I buy a sim and the land is in the group name. and I sell off parcels. thouse people I sell to have to be in the group in order for them to place things on their land correct? However, if someone clikcs an available parcel to buy the land then the money gets divided to all of those in the group, how do I stop that from happening
[16:24]  Prospero Frobozz: Danae, make sure that none of the roles but Owner can receive money.
[16:24]  Cato Oh: Sarah ... Do you know anything about the building of Linden roads ? We have some roadside plots and want to develop it .. but the road is just grass .. so it doesn't look good. Can we request that it's getting done ?
[16:24]  Wendy Tammas: If you own a sim, should you landscape it and build facilities on it before starting to rent parcels out?
[16:24]  Michelle Kuncoro: what do you mean Dwell Bonus Sarah
 [16:25]  Sarah Nerd: Yes, you need to make sure that only the owner role has the pay group liabilities and recieve group dividend box checked
[16:25]  Prospero Frobozz: It is under "abilities" in the "Members & Roles" tab of teh group info box.
[16:25]  Griffin Halderman: Sarah, if for example tier fees are due on the 9th, and you purchase ladn the same day, and you are at max tier does count that for the last tier cycle or the new one?
[16:25]  Sarah Nerd: LL used to pay you a small amout according to traffic ratings, but they discontinued that
[16:26]  Sarah Nerd: Mainland tier fees are based on the max amount of land you had at any 1 given time during the month
[16:26]  Danae Debevec: thank you Prospero
[16:26]  Griffin Halderman: so yo have to wait till the day after if you are going over tier not to get chrged the higher rate
[16:26]  Sarah Nerd: so if I payed tier yesturday, and buy a sim today but sell it tomorrow, my next tier day I will still be charged for a full sim
[16:27]  Griffin Halderman: for the previous period tier
[16:27]  Reodor Sands: I would be careful with any tier increase purchases around the tier pay day ;)) timezones.....
[16:27]  Griffin Halderman: or i should say ending period tier
[16:27]  Sarah Nerd: Yes youd need to sell your land a day before your tier date, and then tier down in order to not be charged the same on your next tier day
[16:28]  Christany Daniels: what is the difference between snow covered land and non-snowy
[16:28]  Sarah Nerd: Even if you own the land 1 day after you tier, you will pay the same the next time
[16:28]  Michelle Kuncoro: so is it better to get an island or mainland Sarah ?
[16:28]  Sarah Nerd: Theres several differnt terrain styles sl offers from snow to sand
[16:28]  Sarah Nerd: Depends on your needs, both have advantages and disadvantages
[16:28]  Sarah Nerd: Estates have high tier
[16:28]  Christany Daniels: what are those
[16:28]  Sarah Nerd: But they also allow more people
[16:29]  Sarah Nerd: mainland the limit is 40 people allowed on a sim
[16:29]  Sarah Nerd: Estates it can be as much as 100 people
[16:29]  Lorene Oh: 40 people at a time?
[16:29]  Sarah Nerd: the estate owner sets the limit
[16:29]  Sarah Nerd: yes at any 1 given time
[16:29]  Prospero Frobozz: I bet the lag is pretty extreme with 100 people in-sim... :)
[16:29]  Michelle Kuncoro: i understand as easted owner if the dweller don't pay tier the land return to the estated owner is that correct?
[16:29]  Sumi Portola: How does the estate owner set the people limit?
[16:30]  Sarah Nerd: Estate owners have the ability to reclaim the land at any time
[16:30]  Selina Greene: yes - I've set the book island sim to 75 people, but the lag is likely to get us before we hit limit
[16:30]  Michelle Kuncoro: that is because not only building used up prims we also do
[16:30]  Sarah Nerd: And if I miss any questions Im sorry, I'm a slow typer =)
[16:30]  Hermione Fussbudget: I've been in a void sim with 100 people, wasn't too bad.
[16:31]  Sarah Nerd: Thats a good point, there are also void sims
[16:31]  Cato Oh: Sarah ... Do you know anything about the building of Linden roads ? We have some roadside plots and want to develop it .. but the road is just grass .. so it doesn't look good. Can we request that it's getting done ?
[16:31]  Michelle Kuncoro: maybe there was not high prims structure there
[16:31]  Nobody Fugazi: what's the smallest piece of land that people should buy? :-D
[16:31]  Sarah Nerd: When you own an estate you have the option of getting it surrounded by 4 void sims for teh prim of 1 more estate
[16:32]  Miralee Munro: Sarah, I don't own any land but my fantasy is to own a little island way, way away from everybody. Is that realistic? Considering I don't have a lot of money from rl income.
[16:32]  Sarah Nerd: void sims only have 7000 prims divided among all 4 though
[16:32]  Bella Wilberg: smallest usable plot size is 512 -nobody
[16:32]  Prospero Frobozz: What does it cost to do the void sim thing?
[16:32]  Sarah Nerd: Well the smallest allowed is 16 meters
[16:32]  Sarah Nerd: but its looked down on by the community
[16:32]  Prospero Frobozz: ...but 16sqm plots are for extortionists and landgriefers :)
[16:32]  Sarah Nerd: because its on;y purpose is generally for ads
[16:33]  Sarah Nerd: smallest tier level on mainland is 512
[16:33]  Footos Voom: Sarah, if you wanted to buy about 1024 m2 of land to flip for a nice profit. Could you walk us through what you would do to start?
 [16:33]  Sarah Nerd: You recieve the abilty to own 512 meters free with your prem membership
[16:33]  Griffin Halderman: when you buy a sim from LL, how do you know if it will be mainland with water (ocean or lake) or no water at all?
[16:33]  Selina Greene: Sumi - I set the avi limit by going to world... region/estate... region tab and then setting the 'agent limit' (which is the number of avis you can have on the sim)
[16:34]  Sumi Portola: Thank you, thank you!
[16:34]  Reodor Sands: Again.. Sarah - to what extent do you trust LL to keep the pace on new sims down (avoiding devaluation of our/your) investment? They are making loads of money on the sims themselves......
[16:34]  Sarah Nerd: Griffin, When you want to buy a sim from LL, mainland it would go to auction and you could look prior to bidding, estates you can make into any type of land you desire
[16:34]  Wendy Tammas: If you own a sim, should you landscape it and build facilities on it before starting to rent parcels out?
[16:36]  Sumi Portola: Wendy, would you move somewhere on the basis of a promise of how it is GOING to look?
[16:36]  Griffin Halderman: and is the price for an estate sim the same price as an island?
[16:36]  Sarah Nerd: It would be your choice, some people simply rent the land and allow the renters to set up the plot, some people prefer to develop first
[16:36]  Sarah Nerd: Yes estate sims and islands are one in the same and $1675usd and $300 a month
 [16:37]  Michelle Kuncoro: easted is refer to be a island sim is it not
[16:37]  Griffin Halderman: rounded
[16:37]  Sarah Nerd: And Reodor
[16:37]  Sarah Nerd: Sorry I missed it first time around
[16:37]  Sarah Nerd: Theres no way to tell when LL will flood the market
[16:38]  Bella Wilberg: reodor- the pace LL makes land seems to be holding steady, with the occasional large dump.. there is no indication of it slowing LL tries tio control the enocomy this way and wants to drive land prices down still
[16:38]  Sarah Nerd: But from what I have heard specking to land lindens, they still feel the prices are a bit high and will continue to create new sims on the level that they are now
[16:38]  Sarah Nerd: Holding large sums of mainland is no dought risky business
[16:38]  Cato Oh: I will also try again :) Sarah ... Do you know anything about the building of Linden roads ? We have some roadside plots and want to develop it .. but the road is just grass .. so it doesn't look good. Can we request that it's getting done ?
[16:39]  Sarah Nerd: So it's best never to invest what you could not afford to lose if a land dump were to happen
[16:39]  Michelle Kuncoro: but is it same holding a large easted ?
[16:39]  Sarah Nerd: I havent personally seen LL create new roads in awhile
[16:39]  Dyamond Stardust: my husband and I are debating on buying a sim, should we start small first?
[16:40]  Sarah Nerd: It seems most protected land is just remaining protected land
[16:40]  Cato Oh: I see ...
[16:40]  Bella Wilberg: cato- as far as i know the lindens get around to that sorta of stuff in their own time, but you can always try to ask
[16:40]  Cato Oh: okay :) Thank you :)
[16:40]  Sarah Nerd: I would just make sure to not buy more than you could handle the monthly fees for
[16:40]  Griffin Halderman: so all *NEW* mainland sims can only be bought at auction...then i don't get the purpose of the reservation process they have then, why reserve something if its going to go up for auction anyways
 [16:41]  Sarah Nerd: Reservations are for private island, you can reserve a spot on the grid intended for you to build an estate on at a later date
[16:41]  Sarah Nerd: It prevents anyone else from owning an estate very close to you
[16:42]  Sarah Nerd: So if you buy and estate and have dreams of adding estates all around it in the future, you can reseve the spots for 30 bucks every 3 months
[16:42]  Wendy Tammas: Say you own enough land to build a mall - would it be more profitable to build it and rent out spaces in it, or just to rent out the bare land?
[16:42]  Miralee Munro: I can't help thinking of this as another Gold Rush where people from the 'outside' hear you can make a lot of money and so they will always be snapping up new land.
[16:43]  Miralee Munro: Whcih will always keep land prices high.
[16:43]  Sarah Nerd: The more press LL the gets, the more people that come in for the sole purpose of making money
[16:43]  Sarah Nerd: Most fizzle out fairly quickly
[16:43]  Sarah Nerd: I don't think outsiders understand the amount of time and effort involved
[16:44]  JC Anvil: Exactly!
[16:44]  Miralee Munro: mmm
[16:44]  Sarah Nerd: I think a true love for sl and being within sl is very important to be sucessful
[16:44]  Griffin Halderman: to make any L's takes time, most are looking for quick, and then they realize it takes effort and they leave
[16:44]  Miralee Munro: I hope so too Sarah.
[16:45]  Danae Debevec: how many sims can one server handle?
[16:45]  Miralee Munro: Sarah, you said something before about Protected Land. Was is this?
[16:45]  JC Anvil: 2
[16:45]  Miralee Munro: What is this?
[16:45]  Bella Wilberg: wendy- if you make a mall it can have vendor spaces, you make more money the more renters you have, just leaving it an empty plot would make less because you can only have 1 renter per 512 where on a 512 you could have a dozen renters as wvendors
[16:45]  Sarah Nerd: Protected land is land owned by governer linden that will never be sold
[16:45]  Prospero Frobozz: Sarah -- do you ever have time to just have *fun* in SL, or are you always working? :)
[16:45]  Sarah Nerd: mainland they have 3 or 4 sims to a server
 [16:45]  Griffin Halderman: so will you buy mainland higher than 9.5Lsqm depending on location?
[16:45]  Sarah Nerd: estates general 2 from what I understand
 [16:46]  Bella Wilberg: yes griffin
[16:46]  Sarah Nerd: Well I stay busy a lot, but now and then I just try to have fun
[16:46]  Sumi Portola: waht if you share a server with a casino or heavy camper..is there anything you can do?
[16:46]  Danae Debevec: what's the difference in a class 5 and a class 4 server and how do you sevure getting a class 5 and is there a difference in cost?
[16:46]  Reodor Sands: Sarah - 3-4 sims per server yes - but they are usually 2 cpu dual core servers no?
[16:46]  Danae Debevec: *secure
[16:47]  Sarah Nerd: I'm not the most technical person so honestly I wouldnt know
[16:47]  Prospero Frobozz: I'm pretty sure it's no more than 1 sim per CPU
[16:47]  Prospero Frobozz: Or per CPU core
[16:47]  Reodor Sands: one sim per core is the word out on the most recent solutions
[16:47]  Sarah Nerd: And as for difference, I know personally I feel less laggy on class 5's
[16:47]  Bella Wilberg: yes 1 per
[16:47]  Nobody Fugazi: On estates it is one server per sim. On Mainland, 4 sims per server.
[16:47]  Nicci Lane: it is one per sim
[16:48]  Sarah Nerd: Ty Mr Nobody
[16:48]  Danae Debevec: so when you buy a sim you request a class 5? is it more expensive?
[16:48]  Nobody Fugazi: :-D
[16:48]  Prospero Frobozz: All new sims are Class 5 now, aren't they?
[16:48]  Sarah Nerd: You automatically get a class 5
[16:48]  Nicci Lane: hence tiers to cover the cost
[16:48]  Nobody Fugazi: Class is just how new something is. No change in cost.
[16:48]  Michelle Kuncoro: is that a physical server
[16:48]  Michelle Kuncoro: or virtual server ?
[16:48]  Nobody Fugazi: soon there will be Class 6 servers... :-D
[16:48]  Griffin Halderman: why would there be a lot in a sim with a house on it that was owned by someone and now Gov Linden has the land? Is that from non-payment of tier? And would it go up for auction you think?
[16:49]  Sarah Nerd: Yes if they do not pay tier Governor Linden holds it and eventually resells it
[16:49]  Sarah Nerd: larger lots generally by auction
[16:49]  Griffin Halderman: its only 512
[16:49]  Sarah Nerd: Smaller they just list fairly cheap on the general market
[16:49]  Bella Wilberg: selina- the only trhing you can do is move, or ask them to move.. doubt they will though :/
[16:50]  Sarah Nerd: Usually Guy Linden handles most abandoned land right now
[16:50]  Selina Greene: (that was for Sumi and her question on sharing a server with a casino or similar)
[16:50]  Danae Debevec: about that void sim thing again. I want to make certain I have this straight. You can get 4 void sims for the price of one sim but only 7000 prim to divide among the 4 yes?
[16:51]  Sarah Nerd: yes
[16:51]  Sumi Portola: thank you agaim
[16:51]  Hermione Fussbudget: And you have to already own a sim.
[16:51]  Sarah Nerd: and they have to be wrapped around an exsisting sim
[16:51]  Bella Wilberg: yes sorry sumi
[16:51]  Danae Debevec: can you then add other sims to butt up against the voice ones?
[16:51]  Sarah Nerd: works out well if you would like usable water around you
[16:52]  Danae Debevec: void*
[16:52]  Miralee Munro: Sorry if this has already been answered, but what is a void sim? A sim that just stays more or less empty?
[16:52]  Lorene Oh: can those void sims be activated at a later date by the owner?
[16:52]  Sarah Nerd: yup, you can make a checkerboard with voids and regulars
[16:52]  Prospero Frobozz must slip out
[16:52]  Sarah Nerd: I beleiev they remain voids, you would have to talk to a Linden about upgrading im not sure of the proceedure
[16:53]  Selina Greene: miralee - void sims are sets of 4 sims that only have 7000 prim to share between them instead of 60,000 prims that you'd normally get with four normal sims
[16:53]  Bella Wilberg: miralee- yes its basicly just water
[16:53]  Miralee Munro: Uh huh - I'm blonde! lol
[16:53]  Sarah Nerd: You could only have a small usable area on a void sim
[16:53]  Hermione Fussbudget: Caledon has four very nice void sims. Caledon Carntaigh is a good example of water, land, and buildings.
[16:53]  Sarah Nerd: some people call them low prim sims
[16:54]  Miralee Munro: So they are basically just to give you cheap 'space' around your island?
[16:54]  Griffin Halderman: a lot of people advertise "protected" ocean views, how do you really know something is protected and won't be turned into a "for sale" lot or "new sim"
[16:54]  Sarah Nerd: exactly
[16:54]  Footos Voom: what's some of the easiest terraforming techniques or objects that you place on land that you intend to sell?
[16:54]  Sarah Nerd: Well linden land is protected, and some people advertise sim edges that way, but sim edges will end uo with a new sim against them
[16:55]  Sarah Nerd: I used to use a terraforming tool, but I found that I move alot faster using th eLL tools in place
[16:55]  Selina Greene: (okay - as we are reaching the end of the hour, please hold off asking new questions, but if you have asked a question that has not been answered yet, please repeat it)
[16:55]  Sarah Nerd: The "apply to selection" button is awesome in edit mode
[16:56]  Lorene Oh: Thank you Sarah.. this has been very helpful and interesting! :)
[16:56]  BlueWings Hayek: what's the difference between manager and estate manager
[16:56]  Sarah Nerd: If I missed anyone I am sorry, Im a slow typer and lose track now and then
[16:56]  Footos Voom: thanks for giving us great information about owning land
[16:56]  Bella Wilberg: footos- as objects go sarah likes to place a few chairs and fire, usually with trees. just to show the lands potential
[16:57]  Sumi Portola: Thank you Sarah...great lecture and Q&A
[16:57]  Footos Voom: thanks bella
[16:57]  Sarah Nerd: a manager could be a manager of anything club ect, estate manager has powers over an estate
[16:57]  Dyamond Stardust: this has been wonderfully informative! tysm
[16:57]  Miralee Munro: Yes, thank you Sarah, Bella and Selina
[16:58]  Selina Greene: I'd like to thank everyone for coming. Before you leave, please take some time to look around Book Island - we have nearly 50 publishers, writers, editors and booksellers on this sim. We have regular events, so please join our group Book Island Events and Discussion for updates
[16:58]  Sarah Nerd: If you ever need help with land questions, I'm on a lot lol