A few minutes after logging in tonight my best friend in SL messages me.
[15:23] Yohan Pintens: fucking muratus strikes again
[15:23] Sarah Nerd: Seriously?
[15:24] Yohan Pintens: 104K worth
[15:24] Sarah Nerd: I really thought he was going to back paddle out of acting like that and start behaving right again
[15:24] Sarah Nerd: He gets more bot land than anyone I see lately so its not like he isn't making money
[15:24] Yohan Pintens: angers me
[15:25] Yohan Pintens: he bought 24K for 1l and sold it @ 3.6 immediately
[15:25] Yohan Pintens: I was the sucker that bought it
[15:25] Sarah Nerd: Oh fuck
[15:26] Yohan Pintens: they bought it back for what I paid, but they are still out 104K
[15:26] Sarah Nerd: yea =(
[15:26] Sarah Nerd: I would have tried at 3.6 too
If your unfamiliar with Freak bots ran by
Muratus LosAngeles, you can see comments residents have had with him in the past on The Landbot Directory including comments left by me when I was disapointed that he started keeping 1l sales, and comments when he was really good to me and gave me back mistakes.
Yohan teleported me in to meet ShelbyJo Avro and Derrian Smythe who had made the mistake of setting the land for sale to 1l while they were trying to group deed it.
[15:27] ShelbyJo Avro: hi sarah!!
[15:27] Yohan Pintens: Derrien, Shelbyjo, meet Sarah Nerd
[15:27] Derrian Smythe: Hi Sarah
[15:27] You: Hello
[15:27] ShelbyJo Avro: nice to meet you sarah!
[15:27] You: Nice to meet you
[15:27] You: Sorry you guys got screwed =(
[15:28] Yohan Pintens: so the short version is they were trying to transfer for 1L to a non-specific user, Muratus's bot picked it up and instantly marked it for resale
[15:28] Derrian Smythe: big time
[15:28] ShelbyJo Avro: it's my stupid fault,,
[15:28] Yohan Pintens: then I was the fast clicking sucker that bought it
[15:28] ShelbyJo Avro: i tried talking with the man that bought it
[15:28] ShelbyJo Avro: but he wouldn't respond,,
[15:28] ShelbyJo Avro: but,,
[15:28] ShelbyJo Avro: he made some money,,
[15:28] ShelbyJo Avro: so i hope he
[15:28] ShelbyJo Avro: is happy
[15:28] Yohan Pintens: I hope he dies a slow painful death
[15:28] ShelbyJo Avro: lol
[15:28] Derrian Smythe: we paid 123000 this morning
[15:28] ShelbyJo Avro: k,,i iwas going to say that,,lol
[15:29] Yohan Pintens: I hope he ends up in prison and gets ass raped until his nose bleeds
[15:29] Derrian Smythe: and we were trying to join it with our other land next door .. the victorian set up
[15:29] Derrian Smythe: hence the 1 dollar thing
[15:29] ShelbyJo Avro: yes,,and i forgot to set a certain person to buy
[15:29] Yohan Pintens: S, this one is probably worthy of a blog post
[15:29] ShelbyJo Avro: and hit the button,,
[15:29] ShelbyJo Avro: and poof
[15:29] ShelbyJo Avro: it was gone
[15:29] Derrian Smythe: it wasn't even 5 minutes time when it all happened
[15:29] ShelbyJo Avro: i begged him to understand it was a mistake
[15:29] ShelbyJo Avro: and no reply after 10 messages to him
[15:29] ShelbyJo Avro: i tried calling
[15:30] Yohan Pintens: it takes under 1/2 second from the time you mark it for sale to the time its purchased
[15:30] ShelbyJo Avro: he cancelled call,,
[15:30] ShelbyJo Avro: yes it was sooo fast,,
[15:30] You: Yea it's really fast
[15:30] Yohan Pintens: oh trust me I know :)
[15:30] You: And do you mind if I quoted you in a blog?
[15:30] ShelbyJo Avro: please do!!!
[15:30] ShelbyJo Avro: word for word!!!!
[15:30] Yohan Pintens: you can quote my desire for him to get ass raped in the blog
[15:30] Derrian Smythe: the ass raped part?
[15:30] ShelbyJo Avro: lol
[15:31] Derrian Smythe: Yohan has been great ... we can't thank you enough for working with us
[15:31] Yohan Pintens: S: here are the relevant transaction items: [15:20] ShelbyJo Avro: 3 931701176 Date: 2008-06-03 14:26:58 Land Sale Description: 28672 Source: Freak Losangeles L$1 L$44,323
[15:31] Yohan Pintens: and : 931721429 Date: 2008-06-03 14:40:38 Land Sale Description: 28672 Destination: Freakin Land L$104,366
[15:31] You: Ty
[15:31] You: I blog it up within a few hours and link you up
[15:32] Derrian Smythe: Thank You Sarah
[15:32] ShelbyJo Avro: thank you soo much
[15:32] ShelbyJo Avro: you guys have saved our dream,,
[15:32] ShelbyJo Avro: thank you,,
[15:32] Derrian Smythe: if we can DO ANYTHING to help prevent this from happening to others .. PLEASE .. Let us know
[15:32] You: Doesn't really help you much, but helps show people what he's doing
[15:32] ShelbyJo Avro: i'll do anything i can do to help !!!
[15:32] Derrian Smythe: and Yohan ... we're indebted to you
[15:32] ShelbyJo Avro: thank you soo much,,,
[15:32] ShelbyJo Avro: yes
[15:32] ShelbyJo Avro: anything,,
[15:32] Derrian Smythe: thank you again
[15:32] ShelbyJo Avro: house
[15:33] ShelbyJo Avro: tree
[15:33] ShelbyJo Avro: apple pie!!
[15:33] Yohan Pintens: never seen two people so cheery after losing 100K
[15:33] ShelbyJo Avro: lolol
[15:33] ShelbyJo Avro: trust me,,
[15:33] Derrian Smythe: you have no idea ... like I said .. we're trying to build our dream together
[15:33] ShelbyJo Avro: yes,,
[15:34] You: It's a nice area
[15:34] Derrian Smythe: thats how much it means to us .. pixels, yes ... dreams certainly
[15:34] ShelbyJo Avro: yes,exactly!!
[15:35] MystiTool HUD 1.0.23: SL URL (slurl) - http://slurl.com/secondlife/Bobtail/119/198/39
[15:35] ShelbyJo Avro: he has to run,,
[15:35] Sarah Nerd waves
[15:35] ShelbyJo Avro: he has a bday party in rl,,
[15:35] ShelbyJo Avro: i called his cell
[15:35] ShelbyJo Avro: balling,,
[15:36] ShelbyJo Avro: lol
[15:36] ShelbyJo Avro: he came running,,
[15:36] You: what are you building here?
[15:36] ShelbyJo Avro: we are making a cuddle area,,like park,,,
[15:36] ShelbyJo Avro: and more houses,,
[15:36] You: Oh nice
[15:36] ShelbyJo Avro: dance area,,,jazz,,
[15:36] ShelbyJo Avro: we started with that small area,,,
[15:36] ShelbyJo Avro: then added
[15:36] ShelbyJo Avro: and then last night,,got this,,
[15:36] You: I love it when people do stuff like that and make mainland look nicer
[15:36] ShelbyJo Avro: we soo enjoy it!!
[15:37] ShelbyJo Avro: it's alot of fun,,
[15:37] ShelbyJo Avro: and we haven't fought yet!!
[15:37] ShelbyJo Avro: lol
[15:37] You: Well I'm going to head back
[15:37] You: Nice meeting you, and im sorry we met this way
[15:38] Sarah Nerd waves
[15:38] ShelbyJo Avro: i am soo glad you people are here
[15:38] ShelbyJo Avro: soooooooo glad!!!!!!!!
[15:38] Teleport completed from http://slurl.com/secondlife/Bobtail/119/198/39
This whole thing really bugs me because Muratus has always been great to me and I've always liked him. I just don't know why he has been doing this. The people were very nice and polite people and really didn't deserve to have this happen to them. I see Freak Bots buying and selling at the list bottom a lot, so I know that they are making money without the need to profit from mistakes. I don't think these mistakes are as common as they used to be because people are more aware of bots than they used to be say 6 months ago, but there are still lots of people who don't really understand the speed that these bots buy. And if you don't deal with land a lot, and your not a regular in the forums how would you know? I guess it's pretty obvious we still need to at the bare minimum keep awareness up.
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I started a discussion about
I started a discussion about this issue in misc.legal.moderated a while ago, which might be enlightening. It boils down to an issue of unjust enrichment, with the person who originally bought the land based on a mistake, liable for restitution.
So Sorry
I am so sorry to hear this. 104,000L = approx $395.00. I was told recently that the Lindens are trying to crack down on the fraudulent scams going on in 2nd Life. I cannot remember who told me that, but it was nice to hear, even if it is not accurate. I still find it hard to believe that people can live with themselves when they do something like this. If there is going to be a fund raiser to help alleviate the cost incurred, please let people (me) know. I'll be watching!
Jez Bailey
No fund raiser that I know
No fund raiser that I know of. If anyone has any interest I'd just say send it to them directly with an im. They seemed like really nice people, and did not deserve this.